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01-03-2013, 04:47 AM #1
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Free or paid antivirus ?
What's your choice? 

Would you be pleased with a free antivirus program or do you feel safer with a paid one? 

I personally have tried both and can honestly say that if you don't browse the 'net in weird places, a free antivirus does its job. What do you think?

01-03-2013, 04:54 AM #2
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
There are tons of free tools and AVs out there to secure your computer just as well as paid ones. Only thing is sometimes you have to use a few more than one, and sometimes they're somewhat more complicated to use, which most people don't like.

In all honesty I use a cracked AV (AVG and BitDefender) and a bunch of free tools (MalwareBytes, CCleaner, etc) to keep my computer clean.

01-03-2013, 07:09 AM #3
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
No Expixors, using multiple Antivirus products, well at least resident scanners, should be avoided, and any security professional will advise you to uninstall one. In fact we even have a canned speech just for the task, and it is one of the beginner things we learn in training. Also, using a cracked AV is a bad idea, as you don't get updated databases, which leaves your computer at risk of being infected. My personal suggestion is Microsoft Security Essentials, though it is a matter of personal preference. I like for my Antivirus software to be very light, and hidden until I need to address something. Also, I do agree with you on the tools part, having tools like MBAM, and SuperAntiSpyware, and ESET are something every computer should come equipped with. People should also take into account that they should always run MBAM before running ESET. Or, fix the infection and then run ESET.

01-03-2013, 07:26 AM #4
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
Free or paid actually doesn't make that much of a difference. Depending on how you look at it, there's always something new coming out, so AV's vary at different points in time, and with different versions. I know lots that are never really good, either because they simply have some lame detection methods, they don't keep up to date with the latest greatest viruses, or they simply cause more grief on the end-users PC than they do any good.

I still think overall, MSE is the best. I know MalwareBytes for lots of people is a reputable scanner. Although I do like a few features from BitDefender, and Norton has one of the best firewalls that I've ever come across.

As I've said to other people, most hate Norton because they don't understand how to work with it properly from what I've seen, so it either causes problems for the user, or they have used versions pre-released from version 2010, which I think has some memory leaks, and tends to use more memory than it should. Versions 2010 and higher actually improved on this substantially.

If you run Windows 8, you no longer need an AV, if you like MSE, because "Windows Defender" is actually now "Microsoft Security Essentials" under the defender name.

I also like the fact that MSE doesn't bug you every second of the day like some other AV's and it's also less known to cause BSOD's in comparison to other AV's that are notorious for it such as AVG and AVAST.

I've heard okay things about Kaspersky, but never personally tried it.

ESET is known to be the worst for false detection rates. MSE had the least (0), as of a reputable malware specialists report that came out November 2012 I believe.

That's my rundown over the years and so far... Other than that, I've seen some weird antivirus programs installed on user's PC's and I can bet that about half of the ones I've seen were probably rouge programs.
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01-03-2013, 07:44 AM #5
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
Also, I agree with the use of some tools like MBAM, Autoruns, CCleaner, Sandboxie and others. I also agree with the idea of an antivirus being small and not ram hungry.

However, at the moment writing this post, I don't have an antivirus installed. I am more interested in finding an live boot antivirus, which you can boot it from a cd/dvd/usb , update it fast and scan your computer. It would boot from ram and would scan all, but you loose all the in-windows scanning as you download functionality. This is only for pros.

01-03-2013, 08:07 AM #6
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
I was forced to use Norton on the company workstations back in 2009 and it was indeed awful, there was really no way to make the situation better.

Nowadays on my personal PC I don't use an antivirus. Still haven't tested MSE to know how good it gets. To clean up the machine, spybot search and destroy is a good help for me.
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01-03-2013, 08:25 AM #7
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
I agree with Florin and his idea of a lightweight program. In my opinion at least 50% of the protection, depending on how you look at it, all comes down to the computer user. You still can't turn your brain off and expect the AV to do all the work while you kick your feet up. Too many people make that assumption...

Florin Wrote:I am more interested in finding an live boot antivirus, which you can boot it from a cd/dvd/usb , update it fast and scan your computer

Interesting idea. I think Microsoft had a scan utility out similar to this, only I'm not so sure that you could update it as it would specifically target certain entries only. Are you thinking of just a scanner then? Or some kind of realtime protection AV as well which would run from your USB key? I think realtime protection from a USB key would be pretty difficult, for a few reasons, but as a scanner, great idea!

All the definitions would be stored on the USB key as well for you to carry around. I would have a dedicated USB key just for that if I found a (reliable) one also :)

Nuno Brito Wrote:To clean up the machine, spybot search and destroy is a good help for me.

Spybot S&D was an amazing program! Haha, I remember using that when I had Windows 2000! Laugh It's a good program.


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01-03-2013, 08:30 AM #8
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
Norton cleaned up its act though within the last two years. It actually works and has an alright detection rating. It has a lot of features and settings, which can be overbearing to a normal user, but some of the simpler settings are easy to use and are perfect if you have a kid. As Ace said, the biggest problem they run into is lack of knowledge of how to do things, rather than the program being nonfunctional and bad.

01-03-2013, 08:42 AM #9
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
(01-03-2013, 08:30 AM)RDCA Wrote:  Norton cleaned up its act though within the last two years. It actually works and has an alright detection rating. It has a lot of features and settings, which can be overbearing to a normal user, but some of the simpler settings are easy to use and are perfect if you have a kid. As Ace said, the biggest problem they run into is lack of knowledge of how to do things, rather than the program being nonfunctional and bad.

I've seen a case where a user tried installing Norton, although they had other installers going at the same time which conflicted with Norton installing successfully--So they go to the uninstall location to get rid of Norton from their machine. They already made a mistake: Norton has an uninstall utility which is specialized for removing itself which should be used instead. And they couldn't really get Norton functional from that point forward, even after they forced it to install again somehow.

Most users today though always blame the technology. "stupid internet", "dumb computer", etc... If only their computer monitor would have had a bit more of a reflective surface they would have seen the truth when pointing fingers Laugh

The reason why I like Norton though is because of it's firewall, and huge configurability, with the kinds of files you can choose to scan, directories, and even detection signatures. But it did score within the top 4 and 3 in quite a few tests not too long ago, so you've got to give it credit on that front as well.

I'm using MSE currently though. I haven't used Norton in a little while.
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01-03-2013, 10:37 AM #10
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RE: Free or paid antivirus ?
Ace, Hmm ... Something like this: http://al-jo.99k.org/desktop.jpg ( All credits go to al_jo from reboot.pro) or even better, something like this  ?

Alternatively, http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/avp...downloads# or http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/res...downloads# can work when your computer needs them!
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